You might need take a little while to concentrate to understand the Catholic connections I’m about to try to explain.
I will start from when I first saw the connections.
Barrister Anthony Tudehope was David Rofe QC’s junior in the Federal Court in June when they were counsel for both Vice President of Fair Work Australia The Hon. Michael J. Lawler and his partner Kathy Jackson.
Anthony Tudehope has a brother, Damien Tudehope.
NSW Attorney-General The Hon. Greg Smith’s Chief-of-staff Damien Tudehope @DTudehope blocked the release of government documents relating to alleged paedophile priest Father Finian Egan.
Damien Tudehope was Father Egan’s solicitor. Father Egan was arrested in May and charged with multiple sex offences. He appeared in court on 23 May 2012 and was released on bail until later in 2012.
“Mr Tudehope’s brother Anthony Tudehope, a barrister, attended the police station with the Catholic priest when he was charged.”
“Mr Smith used to attend Father Egan’s church in Carlingford and thanked him in his inaugural speech to Parliament for his ”Irish wit and pastoral devotion to his flock’.'”
“Despite the web of links, it was Damien Tudehope who ruled that an application lodged by the NSW opposition under the Government Information (Public Access) Act was out of bounds. In his response, dated June 14, Mr Tudehope told Labor MP Adam Searle that documents relating to Father Egan existed, but would not be released.”
http://m.smh.com.au/nsw/charged-priests-political-link-20120707-21nst.html
“The documents come under the categories of ”formal and informal briefing notes concerning Father Finian Egan delivered to or held by the Attorney-General” and ”reports from the Director of Public Prosecutions” in relation to Father Egan.
So now we need to go to a 7.30 Report broadcast in April http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2012/s3471269.htm
“TIM PALMER: There are other connections to Greg Smith’s office. Damien Tudehope is now the Attorney-General’s chief of staff. He too knows Finian Egan well. He attended the priest’s church and as a solicitor defended him against sexual abuse allegations. The ABC does not suggest that either Greg Smith or Damien Tudehope have interfered with the potential prosecution of Finian Egan. But 7.30 can reveal documents that describe discussions the Attorney-General had about the Egan matter.”
“We’ve been told that the case is currently on the DPP’s desk, but it’s been on the DPP’s desk for about seven months now.”
NSW Attorney-General Greg Smith was once the Deputy Director of Public Prosecutions. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Smith_(New_South_Wales_politician)
“The New South Wales Attorney-General and Minister for Justice Greg Smith stands accused of denigrating a woman who was allegedly sexually abused.”
Catholic priest Father Finian Egan appeared in court on 23 May 2012, charged with the sexual abuse of four children in two parishes near Sydney during a 15-year period in the 1970s and ’80s.
Father Egan was released on bail until he appears again at Downing Centre Local Court later in 2012. Father Egan has not yet told the court how he will plead.
http://brokenrites.alphalink.com.au/nletter/page229-finian-egan.html
“Broken Rites Australia was formed in 1992. Since then, Broken Rites has researched more than 120 Catholic priests and brothers who have been sentenced in Australian court cases in which Broken Rites has had an involvement. These 120 court cases are on the top half of our Black Collar Crime page. In addition, on the bottom half of the page, there are a number of out-of-court cases in which Broken Rites has had an involvement. See the Broken Rites “Black Collar Crime” page here.”
http://brokenrites.alphalink.com.au/nletter/page180-current-court-cases.html
“About 90 per cent of the men and women who have contacted Broken Rites Australia have been from a Catholic background.”
There is more information about Father Egan, Greg Smith and Damien Tudehope here:
http://brokenrites.alphalink.com.au/nletter/page229-finian-egan.html
I asked former Attorney-General, The Hon. Robert McClelland whether a Royal Commission could be conducted into paedophilia/child sexual abuse in the Catholic Church.
He said federally for a Royal Commission, the Attorney-General would ask the Governor-General to appoint a commissioner.
It would only happen if they thought that the law enforcement process wasn’t addressing the matter effectively.
They’re state crimes. They’d go state by state if in breach of criminal laws. The Victoria parliamentary inquiry is not same as a royal commission.
For a Royal Commission in NSW, it is up to the NSW Attorney-General. The NSW Attorney-General is The Hon. Greg Smith and his chief-of-staff is Damien Tudehope.
I asked whether The Australian Crime Commission (ACC) CEO John Lawler could investigate the church but he said the ACC has a specific brief to do indigenous communities.
http://www.crimecommission.gov.au/about-us
“The ACC created in 2002 to tackle “nationally significant” crimes … regularly labelled the country’s most powerful crime-fighting agency.”
John Lawler was the Deputy Commissioner of the Australian Federal Police.
John Lawler is The Hon. Michael J. Lawler’s brother.
http://www.12thfloor.com.au/judicial.htm Their father is Sir Peter Lawler Sir Peter, who has had many achievements, http://www.cg.catholic.org.au/news/newsletterarticle_display.cfm?loadref=70&id=1005 including Patron of The Australian Family Association http://www.family.org.au/index.php
Damien Tudehope ran for the seat of Baulkham Hills:
http://hills-shire-times.whereilive.com.au/news/story/damien-tudehope-runs-for-baulkham-hills/
“Outside interests and memberships: Australian Family Association”
“I have a long-standing interest in mental health and firmly believe in the need to improve the delivery of services to the State’s most vulnerable.”
“Supporters of one of the candidates, Australian Family Association NSW spokesman Damien Tudehope, have lodged an internal party appeal against the validity of a Young Liberal branch meeting last week, which appointed seven preselectors aligned with Mr Tudehope’s opponent, civil contracting industry spokesman David Elliott.
Mr Tudehope is supported by influential right-wing state upper house MP David Clarke.”
“However, they warn a victory by Mr Elliott will not be taken lightly, particularly as they believe Mr Tudehope was on a promise for Baulkham Hills from state leader Barry O’Farrell.”
“NSW Liberal MLC David Clarke, an Opus Dei Catholic, has said it is the responsibility of Christians to involve themselves in politics, and it’s natural that political party branch officials will seek new members among their friends.
“Mr Clark, who spoke with the ABC’s Religion Report yesterday, was described as the “convenor of a rapidly-expanding new Christian conservative wing of the New South Wales Liberal party”.
The ABC linked Mr Clark’s involvement with an Opus Dei “stacking” of the Randwick-Coogee branch of the Young Liberals, which has 21 of its 88 members giving their address as Opus Dei’s Warrane College.”
http://cathnews.acu.edu.au/405/69.php
Warrane College at the Kensington campus of UNSW is run by Opus Dei.
http://www.catholica.com.au/breakingnews/018_bn_060608.php
http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2005/s1518645.htm
Redfield College is also Opus Dei. Damien Tudehope’s son Tommy Tudehope, attended Redfield College
http://www.redfield.nsw.edu.au/content_common/pg-oldboysofficeholders.seo
Montgrove College and Wollemi College are two more Opus Dei boys schools in western Sydney.
http://www.wollemi.nsw.edu.au/about-wollemi/about-wollemi-college
http://www.montgrove.nsw.edu.au/index.html
The girls school is Tangara at Cherrybrook
Tommy Tudehope is involved with Warrane College at UNSW.
http://warrane.unsw.edu.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=69&Itemid=145
“Politics and Principle” A-G Chief of Staff to speak at Warrane Lunch.
“Damien Tudehope, Chief of Staff to Greg Smith, SC, MP, will speak at the Warrane Association Lunch on Thursday, 19 April 2012.”
http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?id=135782703104306&story_fbid=266146440146500
I think Damien Tudehope and Anthony Tudehope boarded at Chevalier College, a Catholic coeducational high school situated in the NSW Southern Highlands in Moss Vale near Bowral. http://www.chevalier.nsw.edu.au
John Fahey, former Premier of NSW and federal Finance Minister went to Chevalier College. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevalier_College
“The Centre is named after a friend and generous supporter of the School, Maureen Tudehope, whose family generously donated to make the project possible and to honour her memory.”
http://www.krb.nsw.edu.au/1877/welcome/maureen-tudehope-centre
10 NSW bishops warned the faithful against voting for the Greens in the NSW election, a two-page document entitled The Green Agenda was circulated by Catholic agencies and through schools.
NSW Parliament transcript about the Catholic church’s legal structure:
http://parliament.nsw.gov.au/Prod/parlment/hansart.nsf/V3Key/LC20110914047?open&refNavID=HA8_1
Royal Commission is not the Answer say Hockey and Shorten:
Federally, here are some old boys in the Federal LNP who went to Catholic schools Riverview Old Ignatians http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Riverview_Old_Ignatians
Tony Abbott – MHR (Lib) (1994 – ) Current Federal Opposition Leader
Barnaby Joyce – QLD Senator (Nat) (2005–present)
Nick Greiner – Liberal Premier of NSW (1988–1992)
Tom Hughes QC – Barrister; MHR (Lib) (1963–1972); Attorney-General (1969–1971)
and Old Boys of St Aloysius’ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Old_Boys_of_St_Aloysius%27_College
Tony Abbott MP – the Australian Leader of the Opposition
Joe Hockey MP – a Member of the Australian House of Representatives
Jonathan O’Dea MP – a Member of the New South Wales Legislative Assembly representing Davidson for the Liberal Party from 2007 to the present
Nick Greiner AC – the 37th Premier of New South Wales (1988–1992)
There is a Jesuit saying, ”Give me the child until the age of seven and I will show you the man.”
gerard oosterman
July 8, 2012
The plot thickens.
Clive Bond
October 15, 2012
Interesting to see Opus Dei in there….. and so it spreads like a cancer.
roberttobin
July 8, 2012
Frances Jones, thank you for all this. I am a bedraggled refugee from the “Holy” Roman Catholic Church, now a proud Atheist. I suffered 12 years of my youth at the Jesuits Concentration Camp, Xavier College, Melbourne. One of the boys there was Denis Hart, an arsehole. He is now Arsebishop of Melbourne. He was an arsehole to me when he was Master of Ceremonies at St. Parick’s Cathedral and I was a collector, on the Parish Council and a relieving organist.
George Cardinal “Go To Hell’ Pell’s little puppet is the”Mad Monk”, that Short Robe Jesuit Tony Abbott. I have all the dirt on the Evil Jesuits. I have Fr. Charles Chiniquy’s book “Fifty years in the Church of Rome”. The Evil Jesuits are second in power in the Vatican to Herr Papst Ratslinger.
I also have all the dirt on OPUS DEI. Is Abbott a member of it? Opus Dei have taken over the historic Parish of St. Mary, Star of the Sea in West Melbourne. It has a very old historic Grandfather Fincham Pipe Organ that I know well. Dan Brown was correct in his depiction of Opus Dei in the “Da Vinci Code”.
The Evil Roman Catholic Church is rotten to the core. I am also a member if the Anti Catholic Church Acivists World Wide, the Irish Branch. They are fighting hard for decent compensation for the sexual abuse and sordid treatment of the prisoners of the Magdalene Laundries and the Industrial Schools. Mass attendance in Ireland is at about 14% now and falling.
john murphy
October 25, 2015
Robert i would be interested in info you may have about abuse (sexual and physical )in jesuit schools in australia and xavier in particular
buholanoit8
October 25, 2015
Robert and John, the same goes for me concerning abuse in Jesuit schools in Australia and elsewhere. Thanks Please contact here: buholanoit8@gmail.com
John Brown
October 26, 2015
John. Robert Tobin died last year. – there are others with the sort of information that you are seeking
Frances Jones
October 26, 2015
Did you see Denis Hart on Lateline admit to saying to a woman who was sexually abused by a priest “Go to Hell, bitch”?
http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2013/s3890465.htm
I met her in person.
Bella 888
July 8, 2012
Well done Frances! I see Abbott there among St Aloyisius’ old boys. Haven’t checked out all the other links yet, but the overall narrative is very compelling and VERY disturbing!
Jeff Mills
July 8, 2012
And of course there has never been a link between the Catholic party and the ALP…. I mean the two of them are not at all related…..
Jeff Mills
July 8, 2012
And before you remark…
I am not in favour of any religion at all. I have disdain for most of the teachings accept as they relate to how we should act with respect to each other. Sadly this ideology is not often carried through by large elements of all churches. Their appears across many religions and overall abuse of power at all levels.
Your views can be seen to be very one-sided. Are you a card carrying member of the ALP?
Frances Jones
July 8, 2012
I agree. You might be surprised that some of my closest friends were brought up Catholic and they are honest people with integrity who I love and admire deeply. In fact I was just talking to one who grew up in Ireland now, about what I’ve written above and she said, “What’s in it for them?”
Votes? Money? Power?
I once spent two months in Assisi, which is a beautiful place full of Franciscan monks and nuns. I admire the good in the Catholic church, such as Jesuit Father Frank Brennan and the work Father Chris Riley does at Youth Off the Streets.
What I cannot tolerate is child sexual abuse because as a psychotherapist I’ve seen the damage it does to people, and it is often the cause of suicide.
I support any survivors getting justice and compensation.
I have never been a member of any political party. I admire each party for its merits eg. ALP- unions are important for workers and so is public education, the Greens care about the environment and I support their stance on Stronger Futures and the LNP want people to be independent and to support themselves financially. I’m interested in the character of people in politics.
savetherange
July 12, 2012
AAAHHH my goodness there are good people who write and share for the good of good people. You Frances Jones, have made my day 😉
Frances Jones
July 12, 2012
Thank you.
roberttobin
July 8, 2012
It would be worth while learning about the Evil Jesuits and how much power they have in the World.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican37.htm
Geoff
July 13, 2012
Hi Frances. I first came across your wonderfully eloquent writing with your human observations of the Kathy Jackson proceedings. A fairly mundane? juxtaposed list of items, but you have a charming way of delivering to make it interesting I hope that you’ll continue to write
Sharon Rundle roundtablewriting
August 1, 2012
Thank you, Frances, for your thoughtful and detailed examination of this. We need a full royal commission into child sexual abuse in all religions. Any commission also needs to look at the court system.
All of the religious institutions fight tooth and nail to protect themselves and their institutions, the lengths to which they are prepared to go is appalling and so often has a tragic result for the victims of their abuse. Many suicides can be directly attributed to the institutional sexual abuse the victim endured, often for years; compounded by the flint-hearted response and lack of support for them from the religious institutions in their later years. This makes these predators and institutions also guilty of these deaths.
Redress through the lengthy legal process further compounds the distress and trauma for victims and often has to involve both the criminal court and the civil court. Personally, I suggest a different kind of legal process for victims of child sexual abuse similar to that of a family court. Having to apply for compensation through torte law in the civil court and often first having to fight for the right to an extension to the Statute of Limitations to go to trial is beyond the means of many victims.
I would like to highlight that the biggest impediment to going to trial for CSA victims is the Statute of Limitations. It is well known that it sometimes takes years for CSA victims to be in a position to realise that their problems are the result of their trauma and to be in a position (eg. able to get legal advice) to take their case through the court system. Yet the Statute of Limitations is held against them. Victims have to go to trial for an extension of time to the SL before they can take their case to trial. This can take years. We were told that it was almost impossible to gain an extension of time to take a CSA case to trial but Graham was determined to try. He won his case for an extension of time, then they appealed. He won the appeal. It took 7 years before he could go to trial. This is all in the LawLink transcripts at the link I sent.
The Statute of Limitations needs to be repealed for CSA plaintiffs, it has been in a few criminal courts in some states, including South Australia. With the stringent new rules for having sufficient evidence to take a case to trial already in place, there is no longer a need for a Statute of Limitations for CSA cases.
The State compensation schemes they talk so much about is on a sliding scale that means those who are the oldest benefit the least, as little as $1000. To qualify they have to have documentation that of course costs them money. The compensation schemes set up by some of the States is little more than window dressing so that they can be seen to be doing something.
What can be done to make these religious and their institutions fully accountable? Shame seems to have no effect whatsoever.
Frances Jones
November 12, 2012
One of the biggest barriers for Graham Rundle and others is the Statute of Limitations.
At first you have to go to court to get an extension of time, then you have to fight to get back to court. Graham won that but he’s one of the few who have. Most people stumble at that point. After he won that the Salvation Army appealed that decision and that took a year and a month. Graham won that appeal too. The links for that are in lawlinks, they were the transcripts
“Sometimes they give up, sometimes they can’t manage the court process. We were very lucky because Andrew Morrison SC and his barrister Robert Newell took it on pro bono and then Emmanulel Conditsis also did pro bono for the whole lot. Even then when they take it on pro bono there are still costs- filing fees, psychiatric reports, the serving of documents, lodgment of documents and paying barristers when sometimes the one who’s running the case can’t appear for some reason, then you have to have somebody else.
“First they had to have an Adelaide lawyer because it was heard first in the NSW Supreme Court under South Australian law, so they had to have an expert on South Australian law as well. They had one from NSW to South Australia, his name was Andrew Cameron, he did it on pro bono, he was really good.
“All the lawyers were paid at the completion of the case.
“The main thing was that we got em at the completion of the case,” Graham said.
Graham
November 12, 2012
Thank you, Frances, for all you have done to help achieve this Royal Commission. Congratulations to all who had the courage to pursue this.
Sharon
August 15, 2012
a petition at the Newcastle Herald to campaign for a Royal Commission into child sexual abuse in all religions.
Please sign the petition and let others know about it.
NSW Shadow Cabinet says it will back a special enquiry.
http://www.theherald.com.au/news/local/news/general/labor-flags-support-for-child-sex-inquiry/2649596.aspx?storypage=0
JohnB
October 12, 2012
This is an important key statement with regard to seeking a Royal Commission. I know that in both instances relating to myself in Victoria and Queensland that law enforcement was not addressing the matter effectively.
“I asked former Attorney-General, The Hon. Robert McClelland whether a Royal Commission could be conducted into paedophilia/child sexual abuse in the Catholic Church.
He said federally for a Royal Commission, the Attorney-General would ask the Governor-General to appoint a commissioner.
It would only happen if they thought that the law enforcement process wasn’t addressing the matter effectively.”
By bringing together the failure of law enforcement in these 3 states in a submission to the Attorney-General with each of those instances being clearly connected with child sexual abuse , the coverup by Catholics and the failure of law enforcement in each state to be able to address the matter effectively.
I am interested to hear from anyone with experience or willing to assist in working on developing a submission to the Attorney-General on this basis or with better examples or better evidence if that is available.
Charlie
November 8, 2012
Wow Frances you’re like a dog with a bone on this subject. Congrats. You have done an amazing job. After approx 15yrs in the NSW Cops and going through the NSW Police Royal Commission, seeing, hearing and learning about many many sexual assaults by priests of the Catholic Church I am amazed your research and article has made it onto the net.
Never in my day would we have been allowed to investigate so thoroughly the connections. I remind you of the matters of Father Commensoli and Brother Michael Evans of Wollongong’s Christian Bros School.
Complaints were made early on in the piece and whilst Bev Lawson was in charge of Wollongong Police Station it came across her desk and it is reputed from very good sources that she replied, “Whilst I am in charge of this Police Station NO Catholic Priests will be charged.” She went through the Royal Commission adverse findings were made against her and what did the Govt of the day do? They promoted her and hung out to dry the cops who told the truth of the matter.
You see not only I but many past and current Detectives know of the brick walls that have been put up by certain Senior Police in investigating the Catholic Church Abuse and Cover ups. It is only now that individual Police both serving and ex are piping up.
What the Church does in covering up creates more and more victims. Suicides, crime lives destroyed it has been happening for decades and continues to do so. I hope with enough pressure a properly convened Royal Commission with the appropriate Terms of Reference can be set up to investigate the Church hierarchy for the cover up’s, perverting the cause of justice, having knowledge and assisting Before and After the Fact of a Crime, Concealing a Serious Offence, and aiding and abetting.
All Charges which could well be preferred against many in the Catholic Church. You see I do not push the issue as much as I well could being a Muslim myself. You can see the counter argument that is going to be made ie an axe to grind.
You knowing me that is not the case at all. However, I am still reluctant to push the issue as hard as I could due to that fact. BUT I am heartened to see ordinary people from both the Catholic Faith and other Christian denominations as well as general Atheists are speaking up about this issue.
As Malcolm X once said, “I’m for truth, no matter who tells it. I’m for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” I could not articulate that any better, and I try to live up to that maxim.
Susi
November 9, 2012
Hi Frances
Thank you for devoting your ongoing time and energy to covering this important issue.
Some time ago I made a petition with Get Up. Please leave your email to sign it; with some momentum Get Up will send it out to their subscriber base.
http://www.communityrun.org/petitions/royal-commission-into-catholic-church-sex-abuse-and-the-cover-up-in-house
Susi
Susi
November 9, 2012
Reblogged this on learninglessons and commented:
When will it end? Stop child sex abuse in the catholic church. To encourage Get Up, Australia’s largest grass roots action group distribute my petition nationally, please sign @ http://www.communityrun.org/petitions/royal-commission-into-catholic-church-sex-abuse-and-the-cover-up-in-house
Damien
November 9, 2012
I am an older man now but as a young man I spent five years as a De La Salle brother before leaving them and my Catholic faith. I know the Catholic culture inside out and I know that: (1) Catholic priests and bishops don’t have any special psychological or ‘spiritual’ insight into other people that would entitle them to any protection from civil or criminal liability; (2) the Catholic church is largely a social grouping, often protecting psychologically insecure and immature people in positions of responsibility; (3) the Catholic Church is no different than any other child care agency and should be held strictly accountable according to secular and legal standards for that care.
The fundamental principle here is that society has an inviolate social contract with all its members, especially the vulnerable, which it is required to exercise fully and without fear or favor towards all its members. Governments can and do contract out various social functions — prisons, private schools, child care etc — but it retains the full legal and moral responsibility for ensuring the legal rights and entitlements of those citizens are maintained in any subcontracting process. This especially applies to children who do not voluntarily choose their religious faith or religious school, and to wards of the state receiving religious group supervision.
That’s why a Royal Commission is essential: not so much to identify individual abuse instances but (1) to publicly affirm that the civil rights of children under religious care are not diminished by being under that care, and (2) to identify governmental or judicial practices in dealing with religious bodies that may diminish or obstruct those civil rights of these vulnerable children. There is an underlying and mistaken belief by government officials that allowances can be made or corners cut when dealing with child sex abuse cases in the Catholic Church. This is a pernicious lie that needs to be driven out. These children have full judicial and citizen rights when placed in religious care and society needs to affirm that principle in no uncertain terms. That the Catholic church might be embarrassed by such a process is of no consequence whatsoever.
John Brown
November 9, 2012
Damien. Can you contact me 0756412311 john@tfyqa.biz I am also available on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/DecreeCrimen
David
November 9, 2012
Laughable what is inherent to ”Give me the child until the age of seven and I will show you the man.” Now I about the Tudehopes, I won’t be putting in an application to work at their law firm.
Damien
November 9, 2012
A privately run prison is subject to detailed standards and monitoring in regard to the maintenance of inmate civil rights. An inmate death would attract a detailed inquiry, both into the death itself and the organization, because the State recognizes that it has inalienable legal obligations to the inmate. We would not accept a private prison conducting its own investigation and imposing its own penalties or compensations in a death case. The sexual abuse of children is at least as severe a matter and the rights of religious groups do not override the moral and legal obligation of the State to fully enforce the civil and judicial rights of children or the right of society at large to insist on a comprehensive Royal Commission on these issues. This is not about policing; it is about the legal rights of children towards which the State has obligations that cannot be compromised or contracted out. A Royal Commission please!
Shelley Hansen
November 17, 2012
Thank you !
roberttobin
November 17, 2012
More shit to hit the Roman Catholic Church
Note the references to OPUS DEI.
And about Old Boys, I thought Kermit (Nick Greiner) was JEWISH. He is a Bloody Short Robe JESUIT.
Josh
November 18, 2012
Greiner’s family were Jewish but converted either in his father’s or grandfather’s time.
Greiner and Barry Unsworth, former Labor Premier, were parishioners at The Priory Wahroonga.
Miglo
January 5, 2013
Hi Frances, would you like to write for http://theaimn.com/ ?
Email me if your interested.
Regards,
Miglo.
lawrie higgins
April 9, 2013
What may be surprising to many that the largest number who have been sexually abused in the Catholic Church are not by Priest .Who is then is most likely to abused and this not that . they any worse but by shear numbers . Its the Nuns first,.Brothers second, Priest third . For a man to admit to be sexually abused by a female is just not the done thing to do .. Both Nuns and brothers can also add to their sexual violence are violence of :physical,emotional,spiritual and isolation and many other abuses suffered by children in Centers known as Orphanages, Boys and Girls Homes . In our communities around Australia one four girls and one in six boys are sexually assaulted In communities run by mostly Catholic its one in two . Throw in all other abuses you have a cesspool full of our societies best and communities most respected organisations filled with individuals hiding in them and becoming untouchable ..
john cena
April 25, 2013
cant these finnians whether it be the police tell the truth once in a while and truthfully abuse their own beliefs….rather than shifting the blame to someone else????….even then the white finnian want their ‘brothers’ support when trying to hide their REAL crime….I am stuck with the muslims in the same way….having to take their dirty blame for their crimes…fuck religious beliefs is what i say”….these voices that people pretend that their hear has absolutely nothing to do with me. i dont know how they came. dont know who brought them here,- so my name razwan mohammed shouldnt even have been mentioned. dont want you on my mailing list- this is just a one off comment….
Duggo
June 2, 2013
I`m following this with interest, as Abbott went out of his way to give a character reference to Nestor (accused of molesting children). Was Nestor a Jesuit also?
Also ,It`s my opinion that Pell has something on Abbott as Abbott goes out of his way to appease Pell.
Can anyone give further information?
Frances Jones
June 3, 2013
WHO gives Tony Abbott MORAL and SPIRITUAL guidance?
http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2004/s1210843.htm
Tony Abbott on Lateline in 2004:
TONY ABBOTT: Well, Tony, I may well have been going to confession to Cardinal Pell, I may well have been seeking pastoral counselling from Cardinal Pell.
What’s so sinister about that?
Cardinal Pell is one of the greatest churchmen that Australia has seen.
I am a very imperfect Catholic.
Why shouldn’t I go and seek counsel?
Why shouldn’t I go and trespass on the time occasionally of someone like Cardinal Pell.
If you spent more time with Cardinal Pell, your life might be more interesting.”
John Brown
June 4, 2013
Wanted to get your opinion on the following:
——– Original Message ——–
Subject: JohnB Childhood Clergy Sex Abuse Survivor says “What Magnificent Justice That Would Be.”
Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2013 13:15:31 +1000
From: contact@tfyqa.biz
Why has the press, television and the community not provided the usual
support for those adversely affected by things like a drought, fire,
tragedy or injustice. Why not in the cases like those of Forgotten
Australians, Stolen Generations, Forced Adoption and those who suffered
chronic physical and psychological abuse and exploitation and
culminating in the extremes of childhood sexual abuse by clergy. Where
is their outrage at what this does to their society? Where is their
public appeal for funds to assist those who want to be survivors yet
remain victims it seems simply because they are currently the largest
available pawn in an global public debate over the morals and ethics of
the people n power in religious institutions. A debate that unashamedly
uses the plight of the lack of justice, the humiliation and the
exploitation and shunning of survivors to bolster or to further their
particular slant in this debate.
While the vast majority can agree that the Churches should pay, however
it is the victims who are the subject of this public bartering when the
fact is we all know the Church should pay and should pay dearly; again
however in the meantime those we are crying out for justice for are left
in the worst possible state as a public bargaining chip.
The greatest snub the Catholic Church could face is if the community
made each victim a multi millionaire. A recent discussion on Facebook
mooted a $7.5 million compensation deal for direct victims and a $2.5
million package for secondary victims. Recipients could sign an
agreement that would see a % pay back on receipt of compensation from
Church or Government. There are myriad of programs and incentives and
ways of doing that can be explored.
This would smack the face of the Catholic Church at every level and
would publicly humiliate them in the condemning of ways and would
provide an instant and comprehensive response to the Church and its
ways. There is no organization on the planet which could trump such a
circumstance.
The Catholic Church say it is not about the money. The public says it is
not about the money. The fact is it is about the money as much as it is
about justice and never again.
There is no organization too big to fail if this came about. What
magnificent justice that would be.
So many survivors are tired of simply being the response to the tedious
religious claim of look at all our good work through being bundled into
the response of look at all the raped children. No matter the amount of
money and no matter the size of the opportunity for them to turn their
lives around to have a few years of living well after a lifetime of
being the pawn in this toxic circumstance.
Taking a top figure of 3,000 to suit the Church estimates and a payout
of $300,000 to primary victims would cost the Church only $900,000,000
(900 million). A figure that is less than 1% of its Australian portfolio
– this option would do a handsome job of continuing to look after the
Church’s best interests through minimizing at every step and level.
What would a $7,500,000.00 primary victim and a $2,500,000 secondary
victim payment cost the Catholic Church?
At an estimate of 50,000 victims the cost to the Catholic Church would
not amount to half of its portfolio here in Australia – this option
would provide a limited degree of justice and restitution to a portion
of those abused; it would not provide a comprehensive full just
settlement to all those injured by this.
I consider the 7.5*2.5 million $ compensation package would be both fair
and compassionate and thus would fulfill the criteria set by bishop Hart
this morning.
http://www.skynews.com.au/local/article.aspx?id=876542
“The archbishop says he takes responsibility for ensuring there is no
re-emergence of child sexual abuse in the church, that victims are
treated fairly and compassionately, and that offenders are removed from
contact with children.”
Add your voice for a $7.5 million compensation for direct victims and
$2.5 million compensation for secondary victims, contact the local and
Australian press, contact politicians in Australia.
JohnB
0756412311
Kevin Lee (@FrKevinLee)
June 14, 2013
Thanks for the article Frances, I can add so much but I’m biting my fingers to stop me ..
oh what the heck, here goes:
Duggo.. Father John Nestor whom Tony Abbott defended with a character reference in court is not Jesuits, he is… wait for it, OPUS DEI..
I knew them both from the seminary at Manly. They were close class mates.
I have a recorded message on my phone of when Tony Abbott first spoke to me about joining the Liberal party, then we met in his office and he said, “If Bill Heffernan rings you, you’re in!”
After I indicated my intention to leave priesthood I was encouraged to join the Liberal Party.
I was rung up by the Senator (Bill Heffernan) who ordered me to put in my application to seek pre-selection for Liberal Party at MacMahon, a Labor strongly held seat for the upcoming election, with strong endorsement from people right up to Tony Abbott (I had two meetings with him). I had prepared a speech that was one of my best & those who were there were stunned when I didn’t get the numbers (even one asked for a re-count becos they could not believe the outcome) but I received a phone call later and was later told that “because of my publicly held, anti-Pell stance Opus Dei members (aka Mr Clarke) said that if I was pre-selected, they would veto it..”
Then the Liberal Party number cruncher who called me said, “But don’t get upset Kevin, I was told, you impressed some very important decision makers here tonight, we will certainly be pushing for you to get the next available opportunity”
I didn’t say it at the time but I made up my mind then and there, politics is not for me if this was how you have to play it.
That is the short version but I found so many Opus Dei connections across my conversations in the Liberal Party. The Candidate who was ultimately selected was my best mate, the Police Commander I told you about, who also told me “Your attacks on Pell, as much as I personally agree with them, were the reason you burnt all your support base. Opus Dei have power in Federal politics..”
He also confided so many other things (since he was my best mate) which I dare not disclose..
So do Opus Dei exert any influence in Liberal politics?
There’s my proof and none of my endorsers have contacted me since my preselection speech to comment on what happened.
So much more to the story than will ever be known but I am sure the Internet is allowing people to put more of the puzzle pieces together especially with blogs like your Frances.
Good for you!
Kevin Lee (@FrKevinLee)
June 14, 2013
Oh and another thing you missed, John Fahey was studying to be a priest too.. at Manly Seminary.. as was well-connected Catholic gay man John Marsden.. (many stories about him and priests)
prestontowers
June 23, 2013
What is also fascinating is that Tony Abbott started as a Democratic Labor Party candidate for the presidency of Sydney Uni’s SRC. Makes me wonder just how many of BA Santamaria’s views and moral philosophies will be sought by Abbott when he becomes PM.
PH Duck
June 23, 2013
Frances, You are right about all that you are reporting.
Two of my brothers were students at Sacred Heart College Glenelg Adelaide, both were abused by the Marist brothers, one has taken his own life, the other had his life destroyed by that abuse. Fortunately I avoided the sexual abuse however amongst the Christian Brothers at Goulburn there were several who had vile tempers & flogged us with their hand crafted stitched leather waddies, or picked us up by the ear after a good slapping or kick in backside, but of course “we all asked for it…….”
Kevin Lee (@FrKevinLee)
August 3, 2013
I just noticed a small error. Its Montgrove College not Montrose. I should have known they were in my parish in Glenmore Park. Thanks for connecting the dots Frances..
D.
August 20, 2013
Great work on putting all that together Frances. The Anglican Church has also had some great cover-ups with alleged pedophiles in their schools too. Back in the mid 1970s one pervert kept moving from school to school till taking up and staying in headmasters position at a church Grammar School.in Sydney for far too long. Each time he received a reference,
Reminds me of a sick version of a John Cleese skit explaining the British Class system with a number of scenarios… “what would you do if you came across something really wrong?”
lower class – “well blackmail them for money!”
middle class – “inform the authorities…”
upper class – ” well old boy, bury it of course, we all have skeletons we want kept in the closet”
I know of parents that would do nothing about this sick individual as they wanted their sons to go to the school with the connections that may result, others that would do nothing as they did not want the reputation of the school affected.
We even went to see the local MP who held a shadow portfolio and later several ministries.. his response “well I believe you… bu no one takes on the Anglican Church over headmasters and little boys !”
Have you tried any of the free mindmapping software to help you show the links in this church-state corruption ?
FreeMind is currently one of the most useful open source applications. http://sourceforge.net/projects/freemind/?source=dlp
Tony brownlee
October 16, 2013
fuck the lot of these black catholics they are all child haters and abusers
Rob
November 7, 2013
Sure you know about this..
http://www.justinian.com.au/archive/mchugh-enteres-the-patrick-power-affair.html
Was Power a Catholic?
hannahquinn
April 14, 2014
Reblogged this on The Kettle Press and commented:
There is much to review and ponder in this article, but there is little, sadly, to surprise those who have been following this brutally oppositional and shocking saga of paedophile priests, the Catholic church and child abuse. There are myriads of link ups between people in powerful positions, public and non-public, and the ‘old boy’ network. I don’t believe in hell, but when it comes to child sex abusers, and those who do not promote their exposure and punishment but, instead, stand in the way of it, I wish there was one.
buholanoit8
October 21, 2015
Whether there is a hell or not, these child-fuckers and their handlers that cover up their crimes, will be judged according to the law of the jungle: an eye for an eye. Yeah!
Greg Smith
October 20, 2015
Is the GG, a staunch Catholic, being protected for his alleged failure to investigate sexual abuse in the military when he was CDF?
buholanoit8
October 21, 2015
Thank you Frances for posting this. Seems the entire Oz government, judicial and Church is one huge Catholic fraternity that walk around with the chip on their shoulders that to be Catholic is to be God’s chosen – just like the Jews that say the same for being a Jew. How ironic!
delede
March 3, 2016
Brilliant forensic work here Frances. I attended De La Salle College Cronulla NSW in the early 1970’s. All of these characters were in my class:
John Della Bosca; Tony Sheldon; Steve Hutchins; Michael Lee; Seaumus Daws.
All went on to prominent careers in ALP politics. There may have been even more from the same class that I’m not aware of, as I have not actually paid all that much attention.
I remember them all as decent individuals – most were recruited by a weasely looking union apparatchik who regularly proselytized at the the school; turned out to be Bob Carr.
I was never anything more than a dragooned cradle-catholic & converted to Hinduism at the earliest opportunity.
I never liked the church or the bullshit it peddled; as a matter of fact I’d like to see ALL the Abrahamic religions abolished.
Keep up the good work, Joe.
Frances Jones
March 3, 2016
I have a friend who went to that school, we’ve had some great conversations on the side of the soccer field.
Thanks.
The Star Chamber Inquirer
May 19, 2016
NIce Work Frances – I know how much work would have been involved – but what a great way to see how the links/relationships work
howmuchtimeisleft
June 28, 2016
Your post Frances is actually fulfilling historcal and accurate statements. You are helping to expose certain wretched and soul damaging activities within one of the world’s largest political. religious institutions. I wonder how many other ‘organizations’ are hoping that they will not be touched by the headlights of truth?
The actions you speak about conducted by certain persons, were hidden to but a few for a time. But everything willl come out in the wash. And as one of your respondents says, there is much more to tell…. And so there is….indeed there is.
There was a man called Jeremiah, who, when just a young lad was told by God to confront the injustice, corruption, and deceitful practices the kings and princes of his day, and the established religious order. and God gave him strength of resolve to do this most unsavioury task.
This bloke was a pain in the neck for his superiors, and they harrassed him and put him in prison a number of times; and in a stinking pit in the depth of a dungeon; It was only by some carefully placed words by some more honourable members of the religious elite that Jeremiah was not left to rot and die in prison (not at all like our Australian versions of internment).
Jeremiah said….
“The heart of man is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked. Who can know it?” –
The diabilical actions you refer to of privileged persons over subordinates is simply the fruit of what is in the heart of mankind.
While it is good that you uncover further and on behalf of the abused, and I hope that they do get financial compensation in the order of what one of your responders talk about…7.5 m. or 2.5m) – it is never enough and it does not deal with ‘the sins’ of another kind of others who appear in their own circle as upright persons.
Until the corrupt condition of the heart is changed in each individual – in all of us, that evil by whatever name will be bear fruit against some one or other. That ‘change’ will require a miracle outside the ability of mere man to bring about.
What you are uncovering Frances and those with you – and your work deserves recognition, is but a tiny smidgeon of what is covered. We have and always will have limited resources, limited abilities, and limiting biases to uncover what is hidden.
this leads me to another quote I would like to make….
“But there is nothing which has been completely concealed which will not be uncovered, nor hidden which will not be known.” Every thing spoken or done or even thought in secret by any person, any time, any where will be uncovered.
…this somewhat unknown statement was spoken by the Man who was the subject of a Kangaroo trial against Him, conducted by the religious elite of the day, which resulted in the presiding Roman Govenernor being politically manipulated into condemning Him to a most barbaric and disgraceful death by criucifixion, in spite of the fact that the Governor publicly stating that he himself found no fault worthy of death in the Man standing before him.
A few things come to mind about these two men. Both had a genuine concern for the downtrodden and defended the cause of the weak and abused. Both had a concern for the name of the God of all creation who is very very concerned about the helpless and weak and abused.
Neither men were in it for any personal gain, but rather were willing to pay any price for the message of truth they spoke to their rulers. Both were not afraid to die no in their own name but for the name of Him who sent them – the God of Israel, and Lord of all creation.
The latter of the two men (who actually died for His enemies as well as His friends), promised that everything hidden would be revealed. Let us not be found ashamed when that final unveiling takes place.
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